Mosca, A friend, Jody, used to make stuffed animals. on the face of it some might think that that's chilish, but I know better having watched her figuring out how to make the character look - my favorite was her beaverbear - she made a few really neat quilts too. Gordon, Who reminds me of AgentSmith in the Bryce forum, made things out of wood, silver and leather. Kiyoshi makes pictures in leather, and has been exhibited in the Smithsonian for his works relating to veterans. In his job he makes saddles. Lotsa horse owners here in the valley especially in Clovis and the country side. These are no less true artists than My Uncle Frank who sold over 200 paintings during his 50 years as a painter. -TJ