Now, finally, when I can actually reply to these things, here's the gen....... Mermaids = Dacort Merman's tail, gm-dcmermaids lavender & orange. Boat = Mike and Sharen Custer (I had to put a hole in it btw.) Rocks = The Giant's Causway type stones. All rendered in Bryce 5 and getting the scales to work on the mermaids was a right b****! But thanks to these challenges I actually learnt a lot about bump maps and stuff, and a lot about poser! Comments welcome, but it is the final version. The Bryster