Some of us really are doing the best we can. We're not all artists...and there is no signpost saying "Only Artists Allowed." I don't put up a graphic to intentionally offend someone's artistic sensibilities....it is the best graphic (really) that I can do that day with the knowledge I have and the equipment I have. Why do I bother sharing dredge? Under the theory, I guess, that people who don't like it will go on to something else and this give me a place to share my graphics with some few friends who are more tolerant of my efforts than the experts would be. But there are some excellent graphics out there and I hate the sweeping pronouncements that there is nothing good on the lists. Check out the thread by Stormrage and the one by Lyrra and then tell me that none of their selections aren't serveral cuts above the average. At least they are looking for artists to celebrate. That's a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. Maybe seeing originality recognized would encourage others to try a little harder. But keep in mind, some of us are doing the best we can. We just don't have the talent the rest of you have.