Look at it this way, Bryce has a huuuge fan following, plus Corel has been the "cheaper Adobe" for a while . I own Corel Draw 6 and 8, and I think PhotoPaint is far superior to PhotoShop. And with Painter and Bryce added to the Mix, Corel Draw 10 should kick arse. Also, think about it, Corel needs a shot in the arm. Before we sound any death knells for Bryce, let's give it a shot. Buy the next Corel Bryce 5 and show them that it won't die like Xara. Nick Noel