Lyrra, Another point... how many innocent, hard-working, trusting artists bought AMY before it was pointed out publicly in these Forums that there was stolen mesh involved in her creation? Without publicity more people would lose money purchasing items they could not in good conscience use once the truth came out later, often much later if matters are being investigated for months before action is taken. I would rather that we have hesitation and caution and confirming opinions. Theft affects all of us as users of this program and these models and is a relevant subject here. If a site or an uploader is suspect, shouldn't we know? Carolly