Chuck...if taking the time and the effort to do my ultimate best when making a gallery image, or, any image, for that matter, and, expecting others to show some degree of the same care for their works makes me a snob, so be-it. i stand my ground that there are way, way too many out of the box renders in the gallery. and, i see so many, month after month by the same members....with no improvements. why? 'cause they get alot of comments on how well they "showed" toys they used, and, never feel the need to improve. having fun with poser is a good thing. but, learning to take a critical eye to one's own work, is a good thing as well. at some point, if one is really interested in creating "art" with poser, at some point,i would think that one would notice that their vicki's still had crossed eyes, and no expression. pop...pop...pop!!!