I'm just saying we don't all have your ability or talent. But it doesn't mean we aren't trying. It just means we are taking a different route to get to where we want to go. My goal is not your goal. Clearly you want to do everything from scratch. That's fine. I don't. I don't cook from scratch. I buy clothes from a store. I don't build my own car from the wheels up. I don't have any interest in doing-it-myself to that degree. So shoot me (well, first make your gun, forge your bullets, and then shoot me). I am admitting a failure of ability on my part...a severe lack of interest in spending all my waking hours creating a cup when someone else has done a better job of it. You have an interest in constructing your own house. I don't. I don't think that makes my attempts to do what I can less valid. But at this point all we can agree is that we will never agree. Which is honorable. And that's the end of me in this tedious discussion. Happy weekend everyone.