Hey MarkV, I bought Amapi a few months before I got Carrara 2, & I really feel comfortable using Amapi's interface for modeling, so I do almost all of my modeling in Amapi. I don't know enough yet, about all the nice things in Carrara 2, but I'm learning. Here's another image, this time with the letters cut into a somewhat round object, good luck with your project . . . Mark.