Definately experiment with combining low settings on a combination of several morphs, including negative settings. These are some (very compressed) from my DAZ VictoriaXprssnMagic. For my Xprssn products I don't use any of the face-shaping morphs, so as not to change a character when applied. But if you spawn a morph of your character's face, then you can use touches of face-shaping morphs too. Anything to trick Poser into moving vertices where you want them, even if you have to back parts of it off by using other morphs. You're right that the lips should move over and around the underlying teeth. I'm having a much easier time making expressions for my P5JudyMagic, since I'm creating morphs with them in mind. (Thanks folks for the morph suggestions.) Elisa/gryffnn