btw - let me clarify render speeds wont be halved in any program. youll see some improvements in MOST programs - with the 3dstudio max scanline renderer, mental ray, etc... but not with poser. like i said, for some very strange reason when it comes to render times poser isnt very discerning when it comes to system specs. i really USED to think that posers renderer was blazing fast... but now that i think about it im not so sure. was looking at DOA3 on the xbox, and the graphics that are rendered there, in REAL TIME (60 fps), blow away your average poser render. and thats just a 766mhz processor with 64 megs of ram and the equivalent of a geforce3 rendering them. and im talking reflection maps, depth of field, particles, an entire forest with falling leaves that would make the average bryce render pale in comparison. pfft.