what made you so sure she was bebop? for the newbies, who don't know the story...bebop and blackhearted had a nasty disagreement over a set of lights that blackhearted claimed bebop had swiped. before that, bebop was a very productive, giving member of this community. very, very cool freestuff textures for vicki. well, a fight ensued in the c&d forum...now defunct, even the archives taken away...so none of you newbies can check out some of our "history". blackhearted won. bebop was banned. but, bebop kept coming back as clones....and, was banned again, and, again. some say that blackhearted won due to his sales in the marketplace...least, his name is not held in much esteem over at poserpros. me, i don't know. there was much strangeness at this site, during those days...and, it was time for my vacation, so, i split for six weeks, and went to the keys.