tasquah: I was thinking about doing the very same thing, but with Vue (I'm Bryce retarded ;o)). I need to figure out what the ideal size to render it in is. And the sun should probably be shining more like noon maybe? Guess I'll have to fiddle around in Vue now...lol. Crescent: Such nice comments! I'll be glad to put them up over at big-i - I just have to check the bandwidth usage for my website for the month. A lot of folks downloaded the textures I already have over there and I might be close to my limit ;o). I'll check and see and then decide when to upload them. Laurie