what a biased little history, poppi. bebop was banned for numerous personal attacks on myself and others here at rosity, including the admins. he wasnt banned for warezing my light set, hosting it on his homestead page illegally, and even posting links to it here in the poser forum. proluminaire... whatever. that was just icing on the cake. he was banned long before that, and that issue was dealt with by myself and not renderosity. now i dont ordinarily join these threads, even when i myself am being flamed or under attack. i firmly believe that in most cases, people attacking others in these forums do far more damage to themselves and their own reputations in the process. and honestly, i could care less how little you think of me poppi. but when you distort past events in such a self-serving way, it compels me to respond. 'bebop and blackhearted had a nasty disagreement over a set of lights that blackhearted claimed bebop had swiped' this wasnt a 'claim', and you damned well know that. it was proven both by myself, an admin and countless members of the community that it was a direct ripoff. all he did is change the filenames. 'before that, bebop was a very productive, giving member of this community' bullshit. before that he was a merchant, just like the merchants that hes now attacking with his 'keep it free' propaganda. ironic that he was one of us 'evil, moneygrubbing merchants' until he was banned, when he could no longer sell his products in the marketplace he put them up in freestuff as a last-ditch effort to gain sympathy. poppi - ive done nothing to you to deserve the attacks that youve been directing against me ever since the bebop banning. i realise you and peter are friends - thats wonderful, im really happy for you both. but when you post something in these forums, post FACT and not your edited version of the events. hugs -gabriel