Ron Knight's tutorials are back up again...here are direct links to the respective sections in reguards to your question (materials settings)for the 'groucho marks' upper eyebrow. Victoria: http://www.ronknights.com/victoria/upeye.htm Mike: http://www.ronknights.com/mikeset/upeye.htm These of course...are mostly for textures that don't have eyebrows painted on/use a transmap. If your using a texture map that DOES have eyebrows painted on...eyebrows gone dial is a definite must. Once again...links to materials settings for this instance. Victoria: http://www.ronknights.com/victoria/eyebrow.htm Mike: http://www.ronknights.com/mikeset/eyebrow.htm Hope this helps some! -Des