Poppi wrote: ...enjoy this site. upload your renders and your market stuff. read the tutes and the forums...but, my adivice to you: never take it at face value, or as completely honorable. and, don't ponder what is unfair. that's the way...imo...to succeed, here. True enough Poppi, as far as it goes. But it needs to be applied to all sites in order to be worthwhile advice.