Facts. Now there's an interesting word. Seems like facts vary depending on who writes them. I've been around a while and what I remember from those C&D days was that:- 1/ Bebop posted a new image to the gallery and from what I remember this was a not particularly good image of an arse 2/ Blackhearted then started a thread in the C&D forum which criticised this image in a derogatory and unpleasant way 3/ Blackhearted then posted Bebops image without his permission in the C&D forum and continued his attacks 4/ This went on a long time without any intervention by mods or admins 5/ Bebop retaliated by posting a Blackhearted picture in the C&D forum and criticised this. 6/ The argument got completely out of control and I think both members were banned for 3 days by Ironbear 7/ when Bebop came back he removed his MP items and gallery. It was much later that Bebop was banned and had nothing to do with Light sets stolen by Blackhearted from Steffy Z and subsequently a different but similar set was produced by Bebop to bring attention to this. I have a lot of email exchanges that were sent to me by Bebop between him and Steffy Z that confirms a lot of this. I believe copies were also sent to Poppi and Snow Sultan.