Thanks for the comments everyone(specially Virus and JeffH)... Now I have some ideas for an updated wings... Puntomaus, if you want to beta test the girl before the release drop a IM with your mail(she will be mailed to you, along with the other 5 beta tester(an apology by the way to the beta testers, it's been a while since the las beta release)... By the way JeffH, those of your are rendered in Poser 5?.Actually I only have P4,I mention this for the comments about Collision, since P4 does not have collision detection I'm trying to make look the wings move the feathers as real as posible(this could be a problem)... Ascii (~_~)