Ascii, I did mine with poser 4 and due the collision detection problem thought the best way to solve this problem is to make each feather of the latest layers poseable, I know is a lot of work to poserize each wing but I can't fiigure it out other way to do this. Here is just an example of what I did to try to solve this problem. If you want the file I can send it to you, just IM :) Regards Virus

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