"By the way JeffH, those of your are rendered in Poser 5?."

No, that's P4 Pro Pack. When I mentioned collisions I was talking about the feathers folding through themselves.

This could probably be worked out with the JP's, but I had to stop working on it for a while.

My next step was to add the outer cover feathers and soon realized the size of the mesh was getting huge.

Maybe the outer feathers would work best as props?

-Jeff