On the subject of 'rotation order', I came across this problem recently in a big way. I discovered that, in the furniture figures I had been building, using the Rotate Tool sent all the doors and windows in every direction (well... in 2 directions) and the Twist tool was almost useless. Thanks to VK, I figured it out and. since most of the doors and windows use the Y rot, I took his advice and switched the rotation order of the dials in the cr2s, putting the Y rot first. Like so... Y rot X rot Z rot I then set the limits on the X rot to zero, so now everything rotates perfectly with the Twist tool, and the Rotate tool affects nothing, thereby avoiding the 'flying window' syndrome. If the user wants to, they can open the rot dials and set any limits they need. It's all a bit klunky though. Bad when you have to resort to these measures. mac PS I did notice that on BODY, Y rot is always the first dial, but on any other body part, it's X rot. Strange....