The conform thing is highly overated in my opinion anyway ;o).....since they addeed the conforn feature creating a cr2 is a long drawn out process of resetting joints coz the thing moves after conforming....where as in poser 3 you just added the figure posed it, hit a pose dot, added the clothes then hit the pose dot again..the clothes fit the figure AND can still be scaled and adjusted...seeems to me adding conform to poser 4 was like using a mel hammer to knock a panel pin in :o)...sorry for rambling i guess i'm saying just use a pose dot its a better way anyway ;o)......Steve