hi ice, i'v been working non stop, uhmm here's a hint i'm having wayyyy too much Fun with it LOL! sadly i'm only allowed 25 megs i'll have to do a texture expansion pack ~wiggles eyebrows~ the textures is 2000x200 512 k. I didn't want to uhmm degrate the texture to save space :S. I know there's a program out there called brite.exe, that's really good for bitmaps acting as 32 bit textures but windows sees it as 16 bit textures hehe. :D, i used it when i was creating theif the metal age fan missions.