Thanks . Sounds good to me. I'll probably still model in Amapi and Carrara for a while but I'm going to start to import and make test renders i into EI. I'll still wait for Carrara 3 before buying the Universe 5 package.. but I guess I'm going to the Dark Side too.. A while back somebody from Renderosity asked if we wanted to add a EI forum... I guess we can start one now....