Rena, it would have been far, far simpler for PW to have indicated that Textures up to Oct of 2002 created by Renapd, after that they could word it as they wished. Someone is being obstinate and it is unfortunate because it leaves a bad taste in my mouth with how you have been dealt with, from a site that has given us superior work in the past. C'mon PoserWorld, how hard would it be to do this as Renapd requests? :) Irene