uh - oh ... ************* would most certainly appreciate your feedback and how YOU would read this if you were not aware of the facts, or were someone first associated with poser and the site (newbie). ************* Sorry - I tried - and I can't do that - I knew PW since when it was only Steve's site (and for free) and I knew Fairywoods ... I can't see that site from a newby-POV. I really hope they (well the other part of PW) will correct their statements - you're right - it's far away from being fair and right ... I'm not a natural english speaker but I DO understand when a phrase is wrong in it's meaning ... Good luck ... Schlabber (and if you need help - you know how to find me)