I agree spanfarkle. Metacreations had the Potential to be the S**T, and something does smell. I cannot say what it is as I really don't know the dynamics of events in the company but what I do know is Metacreations have come out with very good products in the past ie. the Poser Series, infini-d, Bryce, Ray Dream and not to mention thier MONSTER of a program series Fractal Painter and Painter. They had serious alternatives to Lightwave 3D studio max and Adobe Photoshop/illustrator and even though for the most part you had to by serveral packages to have a complete 3D solution, the price still never reached that of what you would pay for Lightwave and 3D studio max. Frankly, Carrara with all of its feature could be a ***** program if all of these features were addresses properly but they obviously won't and these are obvious features such as the IK system, and the 3rd party plugins so it does make one question the true motives of Metacreations.