Poser 5 has hair you can grow and clothing which drapes, as well as effects of wind, gravity, and atmosphere... so it takes a heftier machine than P4 (lots of memory is critical!). I just got it (hooray, hooray!), and will put it on my frankenbox rather than the older prebuilt machine (more power, more memory, better video card). With the finalized SR2, it ought to be stable enough, even on a cobbled together machine. Everybody else has played with textures (see what Traveler has done over at RDNA) or foggy lights or dresses swirling from hip to floor(various posts here) ... I can hardly wait. :) Carolly