Gloria Gast gave me the permission to convert her Poser props (Christmas)into vob files. You can find it now in the Vue free stuff. Of course, as I use Vue 4.11, they are converted in Vue 4.11. here is what Gloria wrote: I do not own Vue d'Esprit my self, but have enjoyed many beautiful art work done by artists who use it! I am overjoyed that you like My Xmas tree and all the trimmings! I see no reason what so ever that you could not format it for that program. However, the READ ME for each Model must be INCLUDED EXACTLY AS WRITTEN in my Downloads for POSER at Renderosity. Also I must receive FULL Credit for the creation of all my models Posted in the Vue d'Esprit free downloads category at Renderosity. If you can assure me you will do this, then you have my permission and blessings! Many thanks to her and have fun with these beautiful Christmas objects. :-)Guitta