If you want to go freeware, try Z-Brush. Good frontend and powerful. I opted for Amorphium 1.0, myself, for "organic" stuff, but use trueSpace 3.1 for more "controlled" stuff. trueSpace2 and 3.1 are very inexpensive, and also sometimes featured on magazine CDs so you can get them practically free. Vue imports both formats easily and without too much hazzle. Cinema4D is an excellent render application, but clearly overkill if you simply need a modeler. I am thinking about getting C4D R8 myself, right now, but certainly not for modeling purposes. ;) ta, -Sascha.rb