Ah, just downloaded a bunch of Vickie stuff from your site Trav and realized I haven't got Winzip up and running on this machine yet. Oh, well, I've got a lot of software to get into this machine and out of the Toshiba. Right now Verdie is saving materials and ect out of her computer because I'm sending it to my co-author Sylvia in Canada instead of the 486 I was going to send her. Just maybe we can get Sylvia to explore Bryce and get some picture up? I hope!