Thanks guys! Virus :I will....I promise:) hehe as soon as I have more work done! TRAVISB : Yeah...I think it might solve some issues I had with the lower part when animating...I have also a part of the body done and I am studying how to model a good hand right now... If you have any tips or tuts about hands, it is very welcome...I am using Lightwave... Question:Is box modeling suppose to be easier than patch??