Bottom arrow by the trackball control- turn off gamma correction!!! Vast improvement over the default setting. I read all the tut's I could find on this before seeing the gamma thing somewhere. Still have to tweak all the textures by hand one at a time, I think there's a program somewhere that will convert the textures but it wasn't free so I don't remember where I saw it. LOL Kinda have a list of the settings I'm happy with, just used the #'s suggested in the tut's as a starting point and fiddled until I was happy. Couldn't find a tut that broke it down to : ambient in poser = [magic formula] = what not in Bryce