Vicki 2 CD and Micheal 2 cds are offered in the Renderosity MarketPlace. Do a search in the MarketPlace for "daz3d" i think it was on page #2. If you do not want the full CDs, all the extras that come on the CDs, or you want to be able to buy n download, then the Daz3d.com site is only place to grab those. hope info helps.