The only way I can think this would be possible is to "inject" the geometry into the cr2 where the part in my example above that references the external geometry be replaced with.... { geomCustom { ..insert geometry stuff in here } } If you look at some of the "older" characters in the freestuff that have regrouping and new materials...the modified geometry and new materials are embedded in the CR2. Making a pose file similar with the geometry embedded in it rather than having the external reference may "inject" the geometry stuff into the figure. This would be fine but all anyone would probably need to do with that pose file is cut and paste the geometry info into a new file and voila...instant geometry for something they probably shouldn't have...because in a nutshell, the customGeom stuff you put in there is actually the contents of the .obj file with the modified stuff. As wyrwulf said above, you can use the subdivision materials... Lourdes