If I understand lourdes method correctly, it think it would still be a breach of copyright to distribute even a part of a copyrighted geometry in this manner. Although it wouldn't be possible to use a single pose file in this way without the original object file, it may still be possible to reproduce an entire figure using multiple pose type files and some parts, such as the heads of millenium figures may be deemed to have a real copyrightable value in themselves. The question for copyright holders would be where to draw the line. My suspicion is that they would stomp on it immediately. The difference (and advantage) with mover is that no copyrighted information is ever distributed, only the changes that have been made. Bill