Thanks everyone for such great comments! OK Tribe. I have been in graphic arts for over 20 years. Everything from layout and design to photo shoots. The photo shoots were where I really learned lighting. As for 3D. I started in on 3D art and such with "Imagine 1.0" for the Amiga (An ancient machine) way back in the early 80's. So I have been doing this for quite awhile. The texture and old man morph should be on the free stuff Monday or Tuesday. I still need to do a bit more on the ears. See my Old Man update message. James