Thanks Toolmaker. I've been following the threads at PoserPros as well, trying to make head or tails of this situation. Yeah, although Anton's system gave me some hope, I pretty much scrapped the idea when I couldn't get it to work. Right now, I'm back to using ISOP's MLDress CR2. It has EMC lines that allow you to adjust the bottom of the dress (lFlare, rFlare.) My problem now is trying to get the joint zones setup right so the bending occurs naturally. Since this is supposed to be a tight dress, I may try Jim Burton's method of just creating a lThigh, lShin and seeing if that does any better. Perhaps I can even try to set up some lines that will allow for some leg spread movement via EMC.