I am not passing any judgement on P5, since I do not - and likely never will - have it. What I am finding less tolerable is: 1) CL using the fora for posting pictures to promote P5. IIRC, the Galleries are for posting pictures and they usually only get fora exposure when they: a) are WIPs and/or seeking advice, b) may contain others' copyrighted works, c) part of the Hot 20, d) display newly available FreeStuff, etc. 2) Although most of us who have been around know many of the CL crew, the lack of using CL credentials in the post could lead newcomers to think that these are renders made by average, run of the mill users; not the makers of the software. 3) CL and crew have been silent in the fora, up until recently, and instead of promptly answering bug reports in the Beta forum, supposedly because they have had precious little time, they can find the time to post new renders in the fora? 4) Just like in the Beta forum, system specs are a major influence on the capabilities. Anthony had previously listed his system specs (which are well above the recommended specs, btw). This gives the impression that an average system is also capable of the same output. 5) I thought that advertising/marketing were not allowed in the fora? Granted, this is not blatant marketing, but it has the same "feel" as the "California Dreaming" and "Ruby Tuesday" threads in trying to pursuade users to purchase P5; especially seeing as how it is a CL employee posting and the title of the post touts P5's firefly renderer and lack of postwork.