No personal vendetta, just stating opinions - take 'em or leave 'em; not forcing anyone to see things my way. Last I knew, forums were used for discussions. I have P4PP and was unaware that this is now the "Poser 5 only" forum. Perhaps if you could direct me to the Poser 4 forum, it would be more appropriate? Responding to people during the course of a discussion is not a personal vendetta either. It is called "Common Courtesy".