dialyn: I for one didn't ignore your post of images you found worthy. I appreciated it, and hope you'll continue when the fancy strikes you. I simply didn't feel moved to comment, that's all. I like that personal approach. It's cool, more interesting than the "who got how many votes" approach. It seems to me that "most viewed" is as meaningless as anything else, for the same old issues: Thumbnails are what encourage people to view full images. If lots of viewings are what you want, make sure your thumbnail is a closeup of a woman's breasts. While I like breasts and am not against erotica, I find this practice to be tacky, tacky. Regardless, it appears to come with this territory, and certainly increases views. Does that have anything to do with artistic merit? Sometimes, maybe, but in general, no. Even though I'm becoming as cynical as some in this thread regarding the Hot20, I still vote for images that I think deserve special recognition. Only one that I can remember made it, a brilliant, funny render of the DragonFolk playing cards by Tony S (whom I think goes by BigT here at Rosity.) I vote on what moves me. I wish that's how everyone voted so that the Hot20 could have a bit more integrity. As it stands, it's a mixture of very well done images and a silly popularity poll. I don't really see any way out of this unless there's a sea change of ethics in the Poser world. In the meantime, maybe we should view it with amusement and focus on things that matter more. As regards the person who keeps getting criticized, I dunno. I try to compliment her work now and then, in the spirit of encouraging a fellow newbie, but it's just so obvious that she has a clique of fans who will vote for her images en masse regardless of any significant consideration. But so long as they aren't a flurry of clone accounts, what can be done? Nothing, so far as I can see. Last time this subject came up she refused to consider the frustrations respectfully. Poppi, with all due respect for your skills, I'm certain that DAZ didn't rip off your idea. Several people have released sleigh models recently ... it's hardly an original motif (sleighs in general, that is, especially at Yule time.) Don't stress out ... go ahead and put your sleigh up for sale! You just might get some good sales, especially if it's less expensive than DAZ' model.