I guess greed overcomes respect for the rights of other people. I don't understand the mentality myself....not the way I was brought up. :( yeah, me too. but, if cheating in the gallery is acceptable...then, the moral lines are weakened, shades of grey are brought into the equation. if it is okay to get list members...tubers, of other folks creations, who don't actually participate in this site (cough, community)to vote you into the 20. and, it seems our mods/admins do not care...because, hey now...some of the list folks might buy poser, or get it at kazaa, and then, there could be more folks who want this marketplace. i did the themes on several aol lists. they just don't swap tubes of others hard work...they swap all the programs that are out there for graphics. as for renderosity's "zero tolerance" policy....welli just think that an image someone creates and, loves, and strives to do their best on deserves the same treatment as the "zero tolerance" that they would show when someone gets poser from a warez site. but, under our "zero tolerance" rules...people from swapping lists can and DO, get their little "sharing" groups to vote them into the 20. AND...if you have a list of 100 or more peeps, how hard is it to put your pennies together, and buy ONE copy of anything on any of the marketplaces, and, to share it with the group. who will then share it with their friends, who will then share it with their friends, ad infinitum?