That's very gracious of you, Brian, but it isn't your fault. Anthony did what he felt was right, and that's his responsibility. And I am sure that the people who attacked him thought they were doing the right thing. I'm just sorry that he weighted their words more heavily than those of us who enjoyed viewing the renderings and have valued the information provided by both of you. We aren't all against Curious Labs. I've finally got to the point where I can render with Firefly and any information that provides clues to how to make the software work better is valuable to me. What's really sad is much of the negative views about Poser 5 apparently come from people who don't have the software and haven't used it. It is one thing to be unhappy about how the product was marketed and sold...but why drive away the people who can help us owners use the product? Makes no sense to me. But I'm apparently too old to understand what's going on here.