Chris, Like Jeff said, what are your system specs? Poser 5 does run well on a 500mhz AMD system. It runs better on a faster system obviously, but it will run reasonably on an "older" machine. One caveat - make sure to get at LEAST 256MB of RAM, more if you can. The more complex cloth calculations do take some time, but for most of us animating, we let our machines run overnight anyway, so this hasn't been a problem for me. Another option is to have a secondary dedicated render machine. I've found that I can't do without certain features of P5: The Material Nodes, Cloth, and the Multiple Runtimes. Not to mention Dynamic Hair - it just rocks. The only problems I've had are getting used to the new way of applying materials. But it is SO much more versatile than the P4 materials, and overall, the program is way more versatile than Poser 4. --silver