i've tried the white high light and It's just not the look I want or maybe I haven't the tweak right yet. There has been sevral posts of art work that has a overall gloss. A real high wet sheen. Perhaps if I use the highlight with a plastic wrap filter in PS? I'll check out the tut a Clabs for lips and eyes. But I did see these two tuts somewhere. I believe there is a connection between the multi-transparent texture layering and the wet look that I'm looking for. Rendererotica has several posts of kick ass art work where clothes and skin have this high sheen. I'm waiting on a couple of replies from some of the artists. if they do reply for anyone interested I'll post them