Well, since we are talking about modellers, and not the whole package deal (renderer, IK, ect) I vote for Amapi. It is extreemly powerful, easy to use...and learn. The interface is the most natural flowing interface I have ever used. After long modelling periods, you start to wonder why other apps don't work the same way as Amapi. (If you use it alot, you know what I mean) Clean expors to OBJ format, and again for organic modelling I think it's the best. I can Sub-d model in Amapi 10x faster than any other method, in any other app. And the meshes are flowing continous, all quad meshes...not mix and match quad/tri crap. ~EA