ok will have to do that tahnk u all u have been very helpfull i have been DL all kinds of free things for poser hehe ... addiction u have that right i am workin on my 19th hour of sitting on my comp lol but i have so many ideas and still trying to figure out how the heck these textures work rofl ...... thank u all again here is the pic i just got done with it is a little better and nice thing is she has hair lo