"No insulting another members"~snip~"OS/platform" aww the mac / pc debate and the windoze / *nix debate both not allowed?!?!?!? Lyrra, but then my funny debate post in vector with theglenster over macs would be a bad post. he posted "appleappleapple"......"appleillustratorillustrator" I posted "saucesuacesuace"....... it was worth a chuckle. heated debate's can often be easily mistaken as "flaming" maybe a post by a mod / admin of " -0^0- " ( a pair of glasses ) to remind people in a heated debate to mind the rules? this could help avoid the deleting of a thread when it isn't required, and the negative feelings / attitudes that such deletions would engender.