Damn, i honestly did'nt expect this many replies, But it's all good and im glad you all enjoyed the pics. I really do love the oversized boot concept, I'm not sure if it's because it makes them look so bad assed ready to go off the heazy and beat the shit outta something or if it's just because it's so damn stylish, but for any matter its a hype look and I think McFarlane scored big with it. Thanx for all the suggestions on where to get the stuff to do all this, I was the one who posted at RDNA and , your right, specs boots are the deal, easily texturable and they render veyr well. I think im gonna take a shot at trying to do the rest post work first with a few odds and ends trown into the render, but if it turns out looking quite tired, I think I'll move on to the renderosity approch, lol. Well thanx again for all your comments and the tight pics you all posted ( other gr8 ideas by the way ) Oh and for the the people who were wandering the names of the figs. the first one is Domina and the second is Valkrie. P.S. um... I also took my angel outta the box....