Oh I know that Mosca, the PTB here have managed to show a considerable ability to miss grasping reality on many occassions. I'm resigned to the fact that it's an ongoing thing that basically is worthy of pointing and snickering at but little else. Ironbear stumbled into his keyboard Have fruitful Renders.* Erm, constructive... oh erm. err... Oh I'm not good at constructive stuff. I know. Try adding a clothing item to NVIAT scenes and find out how easy it is to add clothing to poser figures. There, even managed a learning thing too. Cool. :) Ironbear. Mice suck, especially cutesy blasted mice in clothing and houses that have Stuart Little superiority complexes. Should be turned into roadkill. Oh wait, that's not constructive that's non-constructive negative. Oh oops... Oh no, I'm going to be disappeared. Eek These are not new rules. No, they're not, just ambiguously stated reinforcement of existing rules creating a possibility open to vast amounts of interpretation and application shrug Would have been better off posting the relevant section of the TOS than re-interpreting it. :) Where's my mouse ears?