heyas; just to clarify: if you load the dress obj in, you're SUPPOSED TO 'have to move it up' to put it in position. this is due to the difference in position of victoria's hip (and/or BODY) when she's loaded. don't ACTUALLY move it up to position it. leave it too low. conforming it should snap it into position for you. if you mess with the positioning or posing before you conform... well, you're wasting your time, because conforming it will reset everything, anyway :) a: yes, if you built your phi with a different hierarchy order, that might have caused it to act weird. also, since the object of creating a conforming cr2 is to have the joint centers EXACTLY aligned with the target figure's joint centers.... well, you can either type them all in by hand, move them all around by eye, or you can do it the easy way and just copy the joint centers from the figure's cr2. the end results are all the same, just depends on how much time you want to spend messing with it ;)